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mother of dragons. ([personal profile] freeing) wrote in [community profile] dagung2019-11-05 04:07 pm

tl;cr meme




1. Post a top level with your character(s).
2. Respond to other people's top levels with your characters, most likely the ones you have CR between. Other people will respond to your top level in turn.
3. Tell them in as much detail as you like what your character thinks of theirs, and they'll do the same for you! Don't be afraid to wax poetic!
4. Revel in all the positive and/or negative CR you've hoarded like some kind of CR dragon (uh ha ha).
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Re: Chandra Nalaar | Magic: The Gathering

[personal profile] spaghettimonster 2019-11-06 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
In a way, aren't all threads this anyway?
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[personal profile] fieryimpulse 2019-11-06 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
That's deep, yo!

Papyrus is...a weird case for Chandra. She really likes the guy but he's way, way more wholesome than she is, and she worries that one day he'll see her for the bad person that she truly is. in some ways that makes her want to be on her best behavior, but in others, it makes her want to act out more to get the inevitability out of the way.
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[personal profile] spaghettimonster 2019-11-06 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
YEAHH, I have to laugh, because that's one of the challenges in cross canon CR with him.

Undertale's a pretty dang wholesome game overall, albeit with a couple painful topics. And Papyrus is one of the more wholesome of the main characters - at least in terms of his stubborn optimism, encouraging the power of friendship, and refusing to kill. Between his volume, boastfulness, whimsy, and typical attire, he tends to come across as more childish / innocent than he is, which adds to that sort of impression.

But he seems to have a better threshold for acting out and people doubting themselves than that impression would imply. He describes himself as having "no standards," is perfectly fine offering a lecture and a hug and friendship all in a row to the serial killer coming towards him, and he's canonically friends with the murder flower in a lot of timelines. I figure he'll weather a lot of acting out with mostly sardonic and/or encouraging commentary. If you're enjoying Chandra worrying about it, enjoy! :P
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[personal profile] fieryimpulse 2019-11-06 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I am, don't worry. It's a good way to introduce some internal conflict and maybe work through some of her issues on her own self image. Chandra's not actually nearly as terrible a person as she thinks she is! She just judges herself based on TRULY good characters like Karn, Ajani and Gideon, who are practically saints.

Someone needs to sit her down and say "Listen, dedicating your life to swooping in to save people for no reason other than it's right is being a good person."
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[personal profile] spaghettimonster 2019-11-07 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent, let me know if there's anything you think the skeleton can help instigate, intentionally or accidentally.

That's very the kind of self image challenge that Papyrus' loud encouragements are meant to circumvent. He doesn't just look at the best of people, compare himself to them, and find himself wanting, and he loudly encourages others not to do the same - even if he boasts and tells them not to compare themselves to HIM and find themselves wanting. His encouragements at Alphys and Frisk are more about prioritizing effort, and effort to grow, over just one's achievements.

He might be a person who'd say something along the lines of, "being good is what you do, not just what you innately are," but it might take the right line of conversation before he'd think to SAY it.

And, after all, he's also the sort to make up monologues about his difficulties in getting the praise and accomplishments he's sure he deserves. He gets a little off track sometimes.