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giorno "menace, pronounced like versace" giovanna ([personal profile] digiorno) wrote in [community profile] dagung2020-04-07 09:29 am
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APRIL MIRRORBOUND COUNCIL POST



Welcome to the Mirrorbound Council discussion post for the month of April! This is the space to discuss IC concerns from your characters that can be brought to Parliament by members of the Mirrorbound Council. Here are some quick facts!

• Membership in the Mirrorbound Council is open, so if your character is the type to get involved, you're more than welcome to sign up here.
• More information on the Council's history, current members, and motions can be found here.
• Each motion must be cosigned by 3 Council members.
• Each council member can only cosign 1 motion per month.
• As a result, there may be months where not all motions can be raised. In that case, motions will be brought to Parliament in the order of greatest IC support to least IC support.
• To suggest an IC motion, please post to the most appropriate heading below. Make sure to list the name of the character who would suggest it so they get credit!
• To support an IC motion, comment to the motion with either "+1" or some other indication of your character's support. There's no limit on how many motions each character can support, so be sure to check the whole post!
All characters can suggest and support motions ICly — not just Council members! Consider this post an OOC representation of an open-forum style discussion open to all Mirrorbound. The goal is to get as many people involved as possible, both ICly and OOCly, so don't hesitate to chime in!
• The deadline to submit motions is April 15th. After submissions close, Council members will attach their names to motions and submit them to the mod team by April 25th.
• All OOC ideas and suggestions are welcome as well, so please hit us up!

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FINAL MOTIONS LIST | OOC DISCUSSION & BRAINSTORMING
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[personal profile] weirdnecro 2020-04-15 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Character name: Sokie Undertown
Motion description: Sokie wants to suggest looking into land expansion for the usage of farmland, for meat animals and vegetable production. No real action as of yet, but more of a census to see how much land may be needed to bring not only a higher quality of life and lower various food prices, but to see what they'd need to sell the surplus in trade in a healthy manner.

This may include looking into the security of established farms, encouraging Wilder expansion, or the use of various workers to make this viable within the next five years.

Again, this motion is to survey and to see if this would be probable for Parliament to invest in the future farming wise, and where. This work may take up to six months or a year, depending on the experts on trade, agriculture, and whoever else the Parliament may call upon during the survey. It is suggested to use the Professors and their students to make this survey, in order to cut down on costs.
faithlikeaseed: (Default)

+1

[personal profile] faithlikeaseed 2020-04-18 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Myr's always an advocate of food security. He'd suggest as an additional research topic how Monsters with appropriate talents could be integrated into increasing farm productivity. Fauns are obvious, but less obvious things might be Naga helping secure irrigation for fields, Merrows to help with fish and sea vegetable farming in the bay, etc. Especially since they're already proposing asking for the Coven's assistance--this would be up their alley.
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Improving Life in the Outer City/Slum

[personal profile] fulgency 2020-04-08 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Character name: Ozymandias
Motion description: Ozymandias is proposing that the leftover funds from what was utilized to support the reconstruction of Mirrorbound and refugee properties be put toward improving the infrastructure and quality of life to the Outer City/Slums. While it is understandable that those residing within the Inner City feel it is not particularly important, with further expeditions, Aefenglom's reach is reaching further and further beyond its limits. Therefore, areas closer to the city ought to be maintained in response/reflection of that. Additionally, a society is perhaps best judged by how its most vulnerable live.

Limits may be set in terms of proximity to the Wall as living on the very edge of the Wilde would be difficult to maintain when it comes to receiving funding for infrastructure. But funding spent on basic living items (e.g., food, clothes, medical needs, etc.) would be available to any living in the Outer City/Slums regardless of proximity.

This fund would perhaps be best supported through a small portion of the taxes paid to the city as well as semi-regular fundraisers and donation drives. Employed Mirrorbound/refugees (or those with businesses) would be expected to have a reasonable/equitable amount of their income to the portion of tax dedicated toward the fund since they do not pay taxes. (Note: Unless I'm wrong about that! Then same rules would apply.) Unemployed individuals (regardless of Mirrorbound/refugee or native status) or individuals who fall below a certain level of income would be exempt until a change in employment/income occurs.
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[personal profile] foundfamilies 2020-04-08 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
unyieldingmarch: <user name=crimsonflower> (Woah)

+1

[personal profile] unyieldingmarch 2020-04-25 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Edelgard would sign off on this.
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[personal profile] unyieldingmarch 2020-04-25 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Character name: Edelgard
Motion supported: Improvement of Infrastructure and Quality of Life in the Outer City/Slums
Help: Edelgard would speak to people she knows about it and try and drum up support among sympathetic or philanthropic merchants.
Hindrance: Nothing at all!
Anything else? N/A
Edited 2020-04-25 03:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] fulgency 2020-04-25 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Character name: Ozymandias
Motion supported: His own idea, duh
Help: Ozymandias would use some of what he learned from the previous round of motions in terms of identifying members of Parliament that are more likely to be interested and start there. He would then seek to expand support to other members who may still be inclined, but a little more hesitant, and so on and so forth. He would also likely rub elbows with some of the aristocracy that isn't part of Parliament and seeks some support in other pockets of the population to demonstrate interest exists within the city itself. Most of his efforts would be concentrated on Parliament and aristocracy though. Ozymandias would also make a point to show his own willingness to help with this area of the city with small acts of charity when possible.
Hindrance: Again, similar to last month, while some might be appreciative that he is making the efforts to learn the players, some might have their feathers ruffled by that. There's also such a thing as too charming and it's once again possible that he rubs people the wrong way. Otherwise, he's not doing anything actively to sabotage this.
Anything else? N/A
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[personal profile] freeing 2020-04-25 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Character name: daenerys targaryen
Motion supported: Improvement of Infrastructure and Quality of Life in the Outer City/Slums
Help: daenerys often visits the slums to offer work and deliver food from the farmlands, she would most likely make note of conditions and the most pressing issues that could be improved upon. this includes: housing issues, food waste, and health issues.
Hindrance: daenerys has struck deals with the owner of the farmlands she "borrows", lady edre, to stop fully supplying food for the city guard and help distribute food down to the slums. this could have caused issues with deals from higher-ups.
Anything else? dany supports bae
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[personal profile] weirdnecro 2020-04-26 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Character name: Sokie Undertown
Motion supported: Hers of course!
Help: A lot of talking to nobility, the university, as well as various professionals. She may have put some feelers out to see if there's survey companies out there, and if they'd be up for the challenge.
Hindrance: She hasn't particularly favored any party, since she doesn't want to burn bridges, including offering any sweetners or bribes.
Anything else? Not at the moment!
mirshikar: COMMISSIONED, DO NOT TAKE. (Default)

[personal profile] mirshikar 2020-04-30 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Character name: Asura
Motion supported: Arable Land Survey
Help: Asura did his homework and tracked down courted any Parliament members, or family of Parliament members, who hold investments in and/or do extensive business with Aefenglom's farming industry. Did some talking (from his own experience, tending to crops and defending the local farmlands from Shades) about how the information gleaned from the survey would help them to not only safeguard their investments, but ensure that they continue to remain profitable in the future.

Additionally, Asura sought out the opinions of the farmers themselves, encouraging them to write letters to Parliament about their current needs, and how the survey would shed further light on them. After hand-delivering the letters to Parliament, if any Parliament members expressed interest, Asura arranged for brief lobbying meetings with the farmers who penned their concerns.
Hindrance: None, aside from Asura being his big ol'boisterous self.
Anything else? N/A
Edited 2020-04-30 03:10 (UTC)
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[personal profile] exarchal 2020-04-07 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Tacking onto last month's ideas, here are some ideas on the Exarch's list that might be of interest to other people:

  • working on that community garden project - now that people have some know how with gardens, we can put that to use! The Exarch's thinking is that they need to continually work to improve relations between monsters/witches and mirrorbound/natives, and a garden benefits everyone (as brought up last post). Other community activities like building parks, restoring buildings for communal housing, volunteer events etc might also be good for this.

  • why not an official artisan organization? - with last month's motion regarding trade protections, this is a good time to make a joint craftsmen coalition between Aefenglom and Dorchacht. Both cities could benefit from sharing knowledge, and they could cooperate on projects in both cities like rebuilding walls, installing new places to live/work, etc. The Exarch's background means he'd be willing to champion this, even though he's not much of a craftsman himself.
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    [personal profile] exarchal 2020-04-08 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
    A very good point!! The crankiness of the Parliament is also why the Exarch is holding off on his more Mirrorbound focused ideas for the moment. This is definitely a case of metaphorically smoothing the road over before trying to drive on it. A garden is easy enough, and he could do a lot of the initial footwork himself since he actually has experience with this sort of thing.

    Obviously we need a party in the budget to do more schmoozing.
    faithlikeaseed: cw for graphic eye injury further down the page (blind - a dork)

    [personal profile] faithlikeaseed 2020-04-10 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
    All the +1s from one of the Council's resident Fauns for partying.

    ...You know, with a good purpose. Not just partying for the sake of partying!!
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    [personal profile] exarchal 2020-04-10 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
    He wouldn't judge. He counts actual Fae, not just Aef Fae among his friends so, you know, it's fine.

    (but also, we need a party)
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    [personal profile] exarchal 2020-04-10 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
    The timing/place of said party is important as well. If it was held in a park or a garden, it might persuade the other members of Parliament to fund one for the community at large too.

    If we reach outside the council for a party the Exarch knows some people, so he has some suggestions, but a gamewide network post might be helpful in gaining some IC interest. It's been a while since the Masquerade-- that was like a whole kidnapping ago.
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    [personal profile] faithlikeaseed 2020-04-10 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
    Regarding the crankiness, Myr would observe that they seem to have misjudged how some things are run in Aefenglom--as well as what Parliament (and presumably, the citizenry at large) value for their city. The measure they did get through was one that already trended with the City's own feelings; if they make similar use of other existing notions in Parliament to get measures they want through, that might be a better objective for this month.

    E.g., he is very very very much for gardens and more park space, especially since they're opportunities to give everyone a little more food security (and make local Fauns a lot happier); what do they know about existing public beautification efforts they can build on? How much of that is generally left to individual citizens to do? If gardens and parks are more a matter of individual or local community effort that traditionally hasn't needed governmental support or oversight, should they even try directly phrasing it as "build more gardens" versus proposing something more within Parliament's remit that happens to have garden-building as a side effect? (As the Exarch is proposing to make them activities in supporting more harmony between monsters and witches, Mirrorbound and natives.)

    Tangentially, how much are they (the Mirrorbound, collectively) keeping track of all their efforts to improve the lot of natives? A lot of the Councillors have independent work in those directions on top of their work with Parliament, not to mention all the others (Caren, Leslie, Elliott, Papyrus, etc etc etc) who are devoting considerable amounts of time and energy. While they're all doing remarkably on their own or with what coordination they can manage informally over the watches, could the Council offer more structure and coordination to those efforts? (And maybe, sneakily, get them more noticed by people in Parliament who need favor curried with them?)

    OOC, I need to step aside & say that I know people generally do not want any more formality or structure when it comes to "good citizen things my character is doing in the setting," but if that would provide any fun background scaffolding for people to play with, hey!! We could do it.
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    [personal profile] faithlikeaseed 2020-04-10 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
    Yeah, from an OOC standpoint I know that's not something we're likely to get right now; I should've noted that in my OOC asides at the end! But re your second paragraph, that's sort of where I am as well--what can we sensibly make up as we go about all of this? I'm always hesitant to infer about Aef's cultural milieu because when we do get mod information on it I'm always surprised by things I hadn't thought of. In a really pleasant way--the setting is very cool & thought-out!--but enough that I don't trust my own instincts to just make things up about even small cultural trends.

    (And never apologize for rambles; I love and embrace rambles. Bring them to me!!)

    I do like that idea--in the theme of the mods' contribution posts toward big plot events!

    My addenda to the idea would be two-fold, to try & lighten workload for everyone:

    1. With the original players' permission, we could have other people (I'm thinking Council members but certainly anyone interested could also contribute) jot down things that they notice are going on. Only for positive contributions, though, and again only with permission of the player(s) originally threading or plotting the events.

    2. If we have someone crazy who wants to act as a scribe (looks at myself, my life, my choices), we could collate those contributions into a shorter list for the mods. Possibly even one that's sorted out by "it supports xyz thing the Council is trying to sell Parliament on," if applicable.
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    [personal profile] fulgency 2020-04-10 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
    I think information from the mods that would maybe be most helpful is knowing what things Parliament is most focused on in terms of their own motions to pass. I think it could help inspire people to come up with related motions and/or provide opportunities for lending support to those motions to try and develop further in-roads.

    Beyond that, I think to be able to ask direct questions about like "what is the state of (insert topic here)?" to figure out if a motion is necessary or jives well with what's in place would also be helpful if needed. Avoids characters looking like dummies who don't know how things work, haha.

    But obviously these are things to bring to the mods when the world isn't on fire.

    Regarding contributions, I think I would go more with Anne's idea of the players of characters getting involved post than having other people trying to keep track. The game is large and that's a lot to do, and teetering into Work rather than Fun Mechanic imo. Players can decide if they feel a character's actions would be significant enough to draw notice, and it can be included when submitting motions as a footnote in addition to how all the Council members are contributing (positively or negatively).
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    [personal profile] faithlikeaseed 2020-04-10 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
    Oh, in this case other people keeping track would be purely if the other people wanted to, on top of players submitting their own. It's not meant as a replacement for people submitting their own activities but an addendum--if you happen to notice someone's doing xyz as an ongoing effort in threads, you can ask them if they'd mind having it submitted and post it yourself OR point them this way to post. That way there's an option to take the additional work off other players, rather than going "hey that's a cool thing you're doing there, if you want it to matter to the setting go post this form".
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    [personal profile] fulgency 2020-04-11 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
    Ah, okay! Thanks for clarifying. That makes more sense. :)